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I’ve always wanted to -start- an aborton debate thread. All the ones I’ve ever been in were already hundreds of pages long, because abortion threads are notorious for being never-ending cesspools of angst and ad hominem. Not like that’s unexpected, really, since we’re debating morality.
Anyway, onto my opinion. The following statistics are pretty general, and you can find their sources easily just by googling.
Since 1973, there have been more than 45,000,000 abortions.
There were 820,151 reported abortions in 2005 (not including unreported abortions).Now, if abortion had never been legalized, and these pregnant women had been required to carry their children to term, add that 45 million into the adoption system, foster care systems, and into the current US population.
Fact is that we’ll have a metric assload of children up for adoption or in foster care that we won’t be able to afford. Most of them will NEVER end up being adopted. So yea, the day abortion becomes illegal and women are forced to have those children, our population will shoot through the roof. Population is already the leading cause for most of our major environmental problems at present.
What does everyone else think? D:
I agree, I doubt anyone who says “adoption is an option” knows anything about the life of an orphan. Most people do not realize how sad of an experience the life of an orphan is. Of course, a mother is not going to give any love for a child she got from surprise buttsex, and is going to throw that person in a daycare center, and assuming the rapist is in jail. That person does not have any parents. I read some books about this once, one of those include a book called the Great Gilly Hopkins, where a child could grow up in life and find her parents, but then realizes her biological parents do not want anything to do with her. Sad.
You forgot to consider the fact that, without abortion as an option, people might be more careful sexually.
But I forgot to consider the fact that some women might be crazy and have a baby just to get someone to stay in a relationship with them.Mass genocide.
Kill every baby who cries, this way, the humans will all be wiped out from the face of the Earth, hence saving it from harmful stuff.
Ohohohohoho, wonderful plan, isn’t it? =D
The abortion debate comes down to one simple assumption. It’s what needs to be argued, not abortion itself. Some people believe a fetus is a living human, others don’t. If it is a human, abortion is murder. I’m sure no one would agree to killing 45 million humans for any reason. If it’s not a living human, then abortion isn’t murder, and it becomes reasonable both individually and on a large scale.
I think we can all agree late term abortions are murder and disgusting (I’m talking several months in when you’re approaching the birth date).
Rep said: You forgot to consider the fact that, without abortion as an option, people might be more careful sexually.
But I forgot to consider the fact that some women might be crazy and have a baby just to get someone to stay in a relationship with them.I’m pretty sure humans have been having sex for pleasure long before a safe, 100% working form of abortion, or contraceptives, were established. Sex is enjoyable, thus people are going to keep having it wether they intend to have children or not. Most girls who go to a clinic for an abortion were using condoms, or on the pill, or both, but accidents happen, and I think that for those girls in particular, abortion should remain legal. Are there going to be idiots using abortion AS birth control because they are irresponsible and dumb? Yea. And there will always be. If abortion was illegal then those girls who DO have sex responsibly but get caught in an unfavorable situation will just try to abort the child on their own and resort to some possibly deadly means to get it done. It’s a lose-lose situation.
I am super iffy about my views on it.
Mainly because I think abortions should only be done in certain cases: being a harm to the mother’s well being, a rape victim, ect.
But there is just no sure way of regulating it, so I am back to square one.
I want to say that I dont agree with abortion, but then i think about all those stupid women who get pregant and the fact that they can potentially be terrible mothers. Do we want to make these children suffer just because we dont agree with terminating a pregnancy?So in the end, I dont think i can side with for or against.
Gujju said: I am super iffy about my views on it.
Mainly because I think abortions should only be done in certain cases: being a harm to the mother’s well being, a rape victim, ect.
But there is just no sure way of regulating it, so I am back to square one.
I want to say that I dont agree with abortion, but then i think about all those stupid women who get pregant and the fact that they can potentially be terrible mothers. Do we want to make these children suffer just because we dont agree with terminating a pregnancy?So in the end, I dont think i can side with for or against.
So basically, you are pro-choice? o_O because you can disagree with abortion and still be pro-choice.
Abortion, if implented, can theoretically prevent an ever growing line of people with genetically bad traits… all of which can be detected early in pregnancy due to the fact we are looking for extra or a lack of Chromosome pairs, which are almost always have negative side effects for a person, which include muscular dystrophy, hemophila, fragile X syndrome, Trisomy 21 (which result in heart problems, and severe mental retardation), turner syndrome (no second X chromosome), or women with 4 X chromosomes, which usually results in an abnormally tall and severely mentally retarded women. Today, research on any chromosomes can determine how and what a person’s potential future can be like, and whether their life is full of suffering… and the strain on their parents.
Course abortion does lead to a general lack of caring whether or not they do get preggers since all they have to do is get that abortion ^_^
I find it odd for kids at my school to be sticking up for The Right to Life movement when I ask them whether they said they supported the death penalty and a few said yes. Moreover, about half of them support THE WAR IN IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN which is *Gasp* murdering other people (sixth commandment), moreover a couple of those people said they would tolerate bombing planned parent hood clinics! :O
DarkDragoon said: Course abortion does lead to a general lack of caring whether or not they do get preggers since all they have to do is get that abortion ^_^I know this is a fallacy, I just can’t remember the goddamn name. Nevertheless, it’s a fallacy. Abortion –/–> girls not caring wether they get pregnant or not. It’s absolutely nothing like “whoops, guess I need an abortion, oh well!”…abortion is just like any other medical procedure: it costs hundreds to thousands of dollars and can have terrible side-effects. It’s not a decision made lightly.
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