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26 February 2010 at 04:01 #18992
Spade
Participantyou trying too hard
26 February 2010 at 04:13 #18993Arladerus
ParticipantSorry, I flame noobs
26 February 2010 at 04:38 #18994Nass
Participanthaha u flame urself Arly.
26 February 2010 at 05:16 #18995Spade
ParticipantYou think you are good at FPS Arly hah
what’s your KD .97
26 February 2010 at 06:02 #18996guosim
ParticipantArly seems mad.
26 February 2010 at 21:38 #19005Arladerus
ParticipantIt’s around 3.0. I’m not great, but I sure as hell am not retarded enough to think the TAR-21 is good. I used it for a long time, and it spreads like an SMG, except without the rate of fire that SMGs have.
Spade, is that how you try to win arguments? By changing the subject? The subject was the guns, not how hard I try nor my KD ratio. You’re just a fucking sore loser asshole who won’t admit that he’s a retard.
27 February 2010 at 01:41 #19010DarkDragoon
ParticipantArladerus said: You must be an idiot to assume that I was talking about hipfire. I didn’t even think of that. You probably did because you do it all the time, right?By spray, I mean shot spread, obviously. When you shoot and it doesn’t go exactly in the middle of your sights, then the accuracy is poor. SCAR-H has good accuracy. FAL has good accuracy. ACR has the best assault rifle accuracy. You say… “looking down your sights that removes the question of spray from the game”. TAR-21’s accuracy is no good for long distance. You might argue, “if I want to shoot long distance, I would use a sniper”. I don’t enjoy dying, which is needed to switch classes. TAR-21 is terrible for long range, since its accuracy is bad.
Assault rifles are bad for close range in general, as Secondaries usually do the job better. However, your best bet of an assault rifle that can kill well at close range would be the FAL; 55 damage at close range w/o stopping power, which means two shots and the enemy is dead. If you want to compare and say the TAR-21 is better, compare this:
What’s faster? Holding the mouse button and waiting for three shots or a simple double click/pull of trigger (I play 360)?
ACR, I’m not going to lie. Its damage is terrible at close range, and scoops down to 30 at far, which means 4 shots to kill. With ACR though, it has quite a high rate of fire, and you should hopefully be hitting all those 4 shots. Also, the fact that you can make those four shots from a longshot is extremely helpful. ACR is not meant for power classes; the ACR is best suited for ghost classes, with a silencer. You’re probably saying that’s a stupid idea: Why make a weak gun already weaker?
This is how damage works in MW2:
There’s two damage numbers. Let’s say for example, ACR’s 40-30. At a certain close range distance, the damage of the ACR will be 40 damage (out of a possible 100 HP). However, at a certain distance, it starts to drop at a constant rate, until it hits the minimum damage (30). Silencers reduce the distance at which the damage begins to drop. Not sure about Stopping Power, but it probably does the opposite of silencers.
Because the ACR is best for medium to long range, you aren’t losing any damage, and you have much to gain (you won’t appear on radar, NEVER on radar when used with Cold Blooded. BTW, Cold Blooded PRO is awesome.)
Class building. Let’s get into that.
Stopping Power is best used for Machine Guns; why? Slow rate of fire, yet high damage. Higher damage obviously means one less bullet required to kill. But on a but on a fast gun, one less bullet won’t mean much, now will it? On the other hand, with a machine gun, which are slow as heck (except for the AUG), one less bullet means a lot.
Here are my main classes…
Undetectable
ACR
Silencer
StrikerSilencer
Scavenger PRO
Cold-Blooded PRO (very important and helpful for this class… lack of damage compensated by underexposure)
Ninja PRO (Once in a while, you’ll have a group of people camping at one part of a map, and your teammates running to them getting slaughtered… take the long route to their location and knife them all in the back. Footsteps [including run] makes no noise with Ninja PRO!)Final Stand (You really shouldn’t be getting deathstreaks… choose whatever you want though.)
With this class, you never appear on radar unless you pick up an enemy’s gun. With Cold-Blooded PRO, enemies will flinch twice before shooting at you when they use UAVs:
You’re not on radar
No red name appears
Power
FAL
Red Dot Sight or Holographic. Holographic sights supposedly increase your range
RafficaAkimbo
Sleight of Hand PRO (Fast reloading not so useful, since FAL doesn’t drain clips like other guns, but the faster ADS is hella good.)
Stopping Power PRO (? Might not be that important since FAL is pretty fast. Then again, it depends on the person)
Final Stand (Huge part of this class! Don’t forget it!)Some random deathstreak. Painkiller maybe? Dunno.
If you’re wondering about Final Stand…
Raffica is the only machine pistol that you can bring into Final Stand. Note that if you bring guns into Final Stand, it will keep its traits (Akimbo). Raffica is burst fire, but it’s extremely strong (especially with Stopping Power). Even with Akimbo, it can reach to medium distances. Really good. You can always sub to Akimbo Magnums if you want, but the range is too short IMO.
Arly, you don’t get it.
In most online fps games if you’re going at range you burst 1-2 bullet bursts aiming for the head, since you don’t have the handy dandy nooby dooby looking down the sights in most of em.
Since the first bullet always goes in the smack dab middle of the cross hair when the cross hair is at its smallest, you shoot in smaller bursts at range to get it back down as fast as possible.
When they’re closer you start increasing burst size and if they’re on top of you then you think of spraying the rest of your clip.
And if you’re too lazy/paranoid about your kdr to die to switch to the snipe, then why the hell are you going for the long range shots at all?
The smarter thing to do if you’re having problems with the long range shots is to move into a closer range.
Honestly if you can’t do that then stick with the snipe in the beginning and run the fuck away from everyone.And I have played MW2 and the only thing I like better then MW is the tactical knife, otherwise I don’t care.
And triggers fail hardcore, I can click my mouse to empty a 30 bullet clip faster then you can trigger hold to empty the same guns clip.Nuff’ Said
Sage has spoken.27 February 2010 at 02:39 #19011Arladerus
ParticipantI’m not paranoid, I rush a lot. I just don’t want to waste a death unnecessarily. By the time you switch class, you’d want your old class again; one sniper kill vs five medium range kills vs six kills with one gun?
Sorry my post is so short, I’m eating ice cream and didn’t feel like reading it thoroughly
EDIT: Okay. Let’s go point by point. I usually shoot bursts too, because recoil goes wild and pisses me off. But some people can’t shoot bursts. I told Pir it’s better to shoot in bursts, since it has better accuracy, but some people just can’t, simple as that. Also, I can shoot really fast with the controller trigger too, it’s just that I don’t really find it necessary unless I’m using a Plasma Pistol.
By comparing PC to console, btw, it’s like saying “I’m good, so I will use a crappy gun.” You still didn’t say anything about the topic at hand (whether the TAR-21 sucks)
Also, Tactical Knife is sick. Marathon + Lightwieght + Commando. Then get a Care Package Marker… speeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed demonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!
27 February 2010 at 05:35 #19012DarkDragoon
ParticipantArladerus said: I’m not paranoid, I rush a lot. I just don’t want to waste a death unnecessarily. By the time you switch class, you’d want your old class again; one sniper kill vs five medium range kills vs six kills with one gun?Sorry my post is so short, I’m eating ice cream and didn’t feel like reading it thoroughly
EDIT: Okay. Let’s go point by point. I usually shoot bursts too, because recoil goes wild and pisses me off. But some people can’t shoot bursts. I told Pir it’s better to shoot in bursts, since it has better accuracy, but some people just can’t, simple as that. Also, I can shoot really fast with the controller trigger too, it’s just that I don’t really find it necessary unless I’m using a Plasma Pistol.
By comparing PC to console, btw, it’s like saying “I’m good, so I will use a crappy gun.” You still didn’t say anything about the topic at hand (whether the TAR-21 sucks)
Also, Tactical Knife is sick. Marathon + Lightwieght + Commando. Then get a Care Package Marker… speeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed demonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!
Lol, if you only get one snipe vs the 5/6 others why even think of switching?
And I wouldn’t know about the TAR in MW2, as I don’t own a copy of the game/a working xbox.
Only played at friends houses.And Tactical Knife is sick, but they got rid of the Care Package Thing tho I heard =/
27 February 2010 at 05:51 #19013Nass
Participantkk less butthurt/QQ
moar uber pwnage stories27 February 2010 at 08:35 #19018Lithium
Participantkilled three guys with one bullet today. .50 cal FMJ
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