So as everyone knows by now, Saddam Hussein is dead. Yup.
The figure that represented everything America has been fighting against since 9/11 was finally ended by American forces on May 1, 2011. “America Day” as so many of my friends here put it.
As an American you’d think I’d be ecstatic that this man who invoked so much fear and hatred in my country was finally dead. The man responsible all the dirty looks and unfair treatment Muslims received in America after the attacks he orchestrated. The man who launched American troops over seas to fight and die in a war that seemingly couldn’t be won, just like Vietnam. The man who sent thousands of his own people to die for fruitless causes by filling their heads with extremist ideas that took sacred ideas presented in the Qur’an and twisting them into a message of hate and violence.
But strangely, I wasn’t…
On MIT’s campus mobs of people formed, flying makeshift giant American flags and shouting “USA! USA! USA!” for hours into the night. In Amherst, riots formed that got so intense the S.W.A.T. team had to be called in to quell the disorder. In Boston people gathered in the Commons waving flags, singing songs, and rejoicing with their fellow Americans in their recent “victory.”
I found myself disgusted.
No matter what this man did wrong, how many people he killed, how many lived he ruined, he is still a human being. Is it wrong for me to feel no joy that another man has died?
Mary Wollstonecraft said, “No man chooses evil because it is evil; he only mistakes it for happiness, the good he seeks.” I happen to believe that is true. Osama didn’t do what he did because he thought himself evil and wanted to do evil things to America. He thought he was following his God’s commands, and no matter how fundamentally wrong, I can’t blame a man for following his religion. I do the same thing after all.
Many men throughout the Bible have done seemingly crazy things or even evoked violence in the name of God, yet somehow I don’t find their actions appalling because it fits into my idea of what’s acceptable, since it’s my religion. Joshua pretty much wiped out an entire race so the Hebrews could move into land which they were “promised by God.” God wiped out cities of people because they were living in sin, granted it wasn’t without warning, but still. The point is that it’s been done before, and I am not one to judge a man’s actions. That’s God’s job, at least in my belief.
What do you think? I’m curious to find out.
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yeah, I’m pretty happy he’s dead.
This blogpost by a friend’s cousin sums up my thoughts:
Click here and read the first blogpost
He has some other thought-provoking posts on there, so I suggest you read them all.
Dest I totally agree with your friend’s cousin. I wouldn’t go so to say I’m disgusted with Obama’s actions, I mean looking at the details of the operation I’d say the only safe way to deal with him was to take decisive action, in that case it was his murder, but I don’t believe it’s an event to be celebrated.
The goal was to capture him. But obviously Osama wasn’t going down easy and there’s certain regulations for such situations. Osama was probably armed and considered a threat so the safest route was to shoot him in the head =/
That’s my by the books answer, without the conspiracies and whatnot. I haven’t really celebrated but i don’t mind it. He organizes and finances a ring of terror and uhh now he doesn’t. Seems pretty awesome to me, I don’t really feel like a bad person, it’s not my fault. (Selfish? yeah, i stopped caring a long time ago)
That’s my by the books answer, without the conspiracies and whatnot. I haven’t really celebrated but i don’t mind it. He organizes and finances a ring of terror and uhh now he doesn’t. Seems pretty awesome to me, I don’t really feel like a bad person, it’s not my fault. (Selfish? yeah, i stopped caring a long time ago)
this basically
He has some other thought-provoking posts on there, so I suggest you read them all.
Stop trolling. -_- He needs to get serious help if his outlooks on life are that grim.
OT: Personally, I really don’t care about it. People can do what they want, let them celebrate. Besides, after almost two weeks of no PSN, they deserve a break.
I agree with David to some degree about not caring and with Wsx about being disgusted of having so much joy at another human’s death, but…
I mean, cool, he’s dead. But don’t people ever stop to realize that their celebrating could have reprocusions? Everyone is celebrating like if Osama’s followers won’t do anything about it. Who knows? Maybe an even stronger and more violent person could lead what he’s left behind. We’re just giving them more reasons to hate America and even more incentive to do whatever it takes to anihilate the whole continent of North America. Maybe their retaliation won’t be right away. It can happen in the future. It can happen little by little. Or maybe they’ll do something so bad, it’ll cripple us forever. So I’m annoyed that people don’t think before they throw their fists up in celebration of the death of another human being. In truth, I’m just thinking about the long term here. All they are doing is perpetuating a conflict that could have been resolved years ago. The world is never going to have any peace and that saddens me that we have to constantly look over our shoulder because we could be radically attacked at any moment by all the countries that hate our guts. That being said, just because Osama is dead, doesn’t mean the “war” is over. Shit is gonna get real, I’m telling you.
I find it disturbing and shocking you can just write off someone’s actions because they’re following their religion.
this coming from
If you actually read my post you’d realize that’s not what I’m saying at all. I find him accountable for everything he’s done, and I think he’s a terrible human being. But would you really be so against him if you were Muslim and he promised you a better life and rewards in heaven in exchange for blowing up a building. I just think it’s important to realize that Osama was an evil person with un-evil motivations, following his religion. Celebrating the death of another person is something I can’t condone, even if I am glad that he no longer pulls any strings in the extremist Muslim community.
However, just as others have said, making him a martyr and now legendary figure was probably not the best course of action. Now we can only sit back and wait for the ramifications.
If you actually read my post you’d realize that’s not what I’m saying at all. I find him accountable for everything he’s done, and I think he’s a terrible human being. But would you really be so against him if you were Muslim and he promised you a better life and rewards in heaven in exchange for blowing up a building. I just think it’s important to realize that Osama was an evil person with un-evil motivations, following his religion. Celebrating the death of another person is something I can’t condone, even if I am glad that he no longer pulls any strings in the extremist Muslim community.
However, just as others have said, making him a martyr and now legendary figure was probably not the best course of action. Now we can only sit back and wait for the ramifications.
…well that is what you said. Here:
and also here:
How else is anyone to read those?
Because there’s plenty of other Muslims following the religion without organizing a ring of terrorists and killing people?
He’s an extremist. It NEVER says to blow up buildings and shit he’s just fucking nuts.
Wasn’t Osama unarmed?
people say he had a pistol, whether he fired off any bullets is still unknown.
Why does the blog talk about Saddam? I Thought the man of the week was Osama.
I don’t give a shit about Osama.
He’s an extremist. It NEVER says to blow up buildings and shit he’s just fucking nuts.
It doesn’t say what actions to take, but in several places in the Qur’an that command action to be taken against those who do not follow Islam. The difference is that extremists interpret this to be “convert or die,” which does actually go against most other passages in the Qur’an.
I was being facetious. Pardon me, this was a serious topic, probably inappropriate.
If you actually read my post you’d realize that’s not what I’m saying at all. I find him accountable for everything he’s done, and I think he’s a terrible human being. But would you really be so against him if you were Muslim and he promised you a better life and rewards in heaven in exchange for blowing up a building. I just think it’s important to realize that Osama was an evil person with un-evil motivations, following his religion. Celebrating the death of another person is something I can’t condone, even if I am glad that he no longer pulls any strings in the extremist Muslim community.
However, just as others have said, making him a martyr and now legendary figure was probably not the best course of action. Now we can only sit back and wait for the ramifications.
…well that is what you said. Here:
and also here:
How else is anyone to read those?
So if you completely ignore everything else I’m saying and look at two excerpts from my blog then yes, you are exactly right, I’m an awful human being.
ya but people died for no reason. Like “lol my religion says you gotta die so it’s justified.”
Saying you’ll pass it off because “I don’t judge.” is kinda fucked up imo.
He killed people,full stop. That should be enough to say he wasn’t the nicest of people.
My only point, the only point I was trying to convey that is, is that it’s not right to celebrate a person’s death. Ignore me and continue believing what you’d like if you wish.
But it IS right to celebrate an end of an era. Just like people did after WW2.
But it IS right to celebrate an end of an era. Just like people did after WW2.
Who ever said that the era of terroists was over?
Like I said, things might get ever worse now that he’s dead~
But it IS right to celebrate an end of an era. Just like people did after WW2.
Who ever said that the era of terroists was over?
Like I said, things might get ever worse now that he’s dead~
But it’s still the end of Osama’s era. It can go both ways, his people can blindly seek revenge and make mistakes. or, someone smarter will take over and rule.
But it IS right to celebrate an end of an era. Just like people did after WW2.
Who ever said that the era of terroists was over?
Like I said, things might get ever worse now that he’s dead~
But it’s still the end of Osama’s era. It can go both ways, his people can blindly seek revenge and make mistakes. or, someone smarter will take over and rule.
I really hope it’s not the latter or we’re all fuuuuucked.
I feel the same way. There were always better things to worry about.
I feel the same way. There were always better things to worry about.
Yeah but that’s ’cause you live in Canada, where everyone’s friendly and there’s no government required because everyone’s so just goddamn friendly.
I feel the same way. There were always better things to worry about.
Yeah but that’s ’cause you live in Canada, where everyone’s friendly and there’s no government required because everyone’s so just goddamn friendly.
tru dat, tru dat….
What matters here, is how will the extremists react? I’m sure they wouldn’t take this sitting down, amirite.
Study for your finals, guys.
I feel the same way. There were always better things to worry about.
Yeah but that’s ’cause you live in Canada, where everyone’s friendly and there’s no government required because everyone’s so just goddamn friendly.
Not when it comes to the NHL. Canadians are hardcore with that shit. When it comes to that, all friendliness just goes out the window.
I feel the same way. There were always better things to worry about.
Yeah but that’s ’cause you live in Canada, where everyone’s friendly and there’s no government required because everyone’s so just goddamn friendly.
Not when it comes to the NHL. Canadians are hardcore with that shit. When it comes to that, all friendliness just goes out the window.
Qft.
Do people still say that? Don’t want to sound old.
Anyway, we’re not celebrating just someone’s death, this is duh #1 hated person in Amurica, and when it comes to Amurica, when it’s #1, it has to be celebrated, disregard the event.
amirite or amirite
Read the Saddam Hussein in the first sentence and couldn’t consider this blog anything but a troll from that point on.
“Hey guys, did you hear about bin Laden? They say he was behind 9/11!”
I feel the same way. There were always better things to worry about.
Yeah but that’s ’cause you live in Canada, where everyone’s friendly and there’s no government required because everyone’s so just goddamn friendly.
Not when it comes to the NHL. Canadians are hardcore with that shit. When it comes to that, all friendliness just goes out the window.
That only applies to Vancouver,Montreal,Edmonton and Toronto (mayyybe Ottawa) imo
Everywhere else it’s like, “yeah…hockey is fucking boring. It’s like baseball, except at some point something interesting DOES happen.”
I’m american and I did not celebrate his death. Mostly because the first time I learned he died was when Kevin said so and I was pretty sure he was trolling. Til he got serious. Now that days have passed I can say that I dunno why people are celebrating like that was the end of terrorism forever and we can all go skipping through a field of daisies holding hands. One guy died. One. Sure he was the leader but do you really think he didn’t have someone as a fallback plan? I also don’t see it as huge accomplishment for America (for the soldiers who’ve been fighting however it most definitely was. I hope they can come home to their families now and get some rest from being heroes). We’re still falling apart at the seams, one guy’s death is just a distraction. *shrugs* those be my feelings.
Or maybe because I recognize that these terrorists represent a far smaller threat to public safety than certain lega things… even if I lived in the States, I’d be more worried about mugging attempts than terrorist attacks. Ergh late reply.
Or maybe because I recognize that these terrorists represent a far smaller threat to public safety than certain lega things… even if I lived in the States, I’d be more worried about mugging attempts than terrorist attacks. Ergh late reply.
… it’s a joke.
Oops.
(lol “lega”)