My Top 5 MMOs

I propose this! We all make a blog that lists your Top 5 MMOs! And I'll be the one to start!

MMO #5: Maple Story

…What?

Maple Story, for me, is a game that got me into my roots for being a gamer, at least an MMORPGamer. Fun times were had back in the old days, when I was just a naive little kid who had a blast playing a lot of games, notably Halo. As such, my first Maple Story character was dubbed: Spartan119. Not much creativity there, but come on, I was like ten? Twelve tops. Old Spartan became a Warrior who followed the path of a Fighter.

I remember back then I screwed up my stats pretty badly, allocating points into INT, LUK, and even HP & MP. Then I learned how bad that is and started to do my best to get points into STR and DEX. Didn't go too well to say the least. But stats weren't the only things I screwed up! I allocated my hard earned 3 SP into skills that aren't recommended to have points into, such as Iron Defense or whatever that was called.

After awhile and a year or two later, I found my way to the website that eventually led me to find you guys. Much fun was had there, auctioning, buying, selling, uploading screens. I actually didn't think too much about the other users. As mentioned before, I eventually found my way to good old MMOTales. I met a whole lot of crazy people and uploaded horribly made comics and fanfics there. Did I even finish any of them? Oh well.

Some hiatus later and I played Maple Story again, meeting an interesting girl who was also Chinese and lived in Canada. Thus started my life as a member of a guild and my interests in Canada. Anywho, I trained, I fought, I trained more and then eventually gave up on my Fighter.

R.I.P., Spartan119 of the Fighter clan. He was only level 46.

Then I made a StrDit but I won't go into the horrible details of grinding that was. But he did give me one thing: the name Kedatte for a lot of my character names.

tl;dr
I like Maple Story simply because it was a fun game that I often played for like a week before quitting due to how boring grinding is but it started everything for me.

MMO #4: Dungeons & Dragons Online

Truth be told, I've actually only gotten into D&D this year. Before playing this, I've no clue about D&D as a whole, but afterward I found D&D to be actually interesting and found an interesting web comic to read.

Dungeons & Dragons Online provides me a list of possibilities! I can make a Fighter who can tank enemies and when they're not looking, blast them with powerful fireballs! Or create a Rogue that can pick locks and have sneak attacks but when conflict comes I can easily attack enemies with dual wielding swords!

I also like how all the mid-game quests require a well balanced party to complete and the need for teamwork to be effective, basically making this one of the funnest games I've ever played.

But I can't say much more about this game, as I've always made new characters to see how things would go. And basically killing monsters and quests were the only things I ever did. And the only things there ever was to do.

tl;dr
I like this game because it allows multi-classing and requires a good amount of teamwork.

MMO #3: Genesis A.D.

Initially, my list of 5 games included all games being MMORPGs. I couldn't let that happen. So I got Genesis A.D. to be number 3 and a step higher than the aforementioned DDO because- well, it's fun and has variety.

Genesis was great in my short week of playing it. Possibly because I rarely ever played Shooters on the PC, the only other MMOFPS games I played were Combat Arms and Soldier Front. Guess why I never blogged about them?

Genesis had things to keep everything tricky, the three different Factions and variety of weapons and armors. Also special powers like the Booster and Cloaking. As an Assault Class, I've always played the Mighty Glacier, staying out of heavy combat and ambush unsuspecting enemies. And the Cloaking Snipers were complete idiots! Free kills basically. The Suppliers and sniping Snipers were my dragon's bane, unfortunately.

Meanwhile, I actually only got into Sniper due to the amount of Sniper games. I played the type who used the Cloaking effectively, sneaking on targets or hid when enemies approached. As such, my pistols and rail gun were my primary weapons. If I were to snipe, I would get rather lucky shots or kill people when they were distracted. In reality, I hate sniping unless it's against an AI. Or in L4D.

Suppliers was my second most used class. I played the role of the Fragile Speedster. My armor was set so I had a lot of speed with little defense, but I had no Booster so I wasn't much of a Speedster. I did however had the ever powerful SMG and a healing gun to heal allies. One shot of a Polymer on the enemies followed by a burst of my SMG and they were down in no time.

Fun times were had, but unfortunately it was only for a week. One of the best games I've ever played.

tl;dr
Genesis is mighty fun due to three different player types.

Game #2: Lunia

Well, I played Lunia back when it was in Open Beta and when everything was friggin hard! But it was fun and encouraged team work.

The first character I made was Sieg the Knight. I actually don't remember his name so yeah…

Little while later it moved to 12FootTall and I made a new account and character. Still as hard, and there was a new episode 4 with a new Tia character and a new Lime character. Nothing special.

Then it finally moved to ijji. This is where my tale begins.

Kedatte, a Sieg the Knight, was made and became my main source of power. The game had it's difficulty decreased greatly, enabling the actual ability to solo stages and revamped the party system, which is now better than just having to wait for people to join the stage. I smashed my way through the game and watched all the cutscenes as I went along.

A hiatus later…

Holy crap a ton of new stuff has happened. Several new characters were introduced, an episode 5 and 6, along with Bonus and Myth and a rebirth system! With a new character coming up too! I was… Amazed really. But really, nothing interesting happened except for me finishing 5 and 6 and getting one rebirth.

Another hiatus later…

Holy crap the game got very easy. I mean very, very easy. Quests were given everywhere, the square was shrunk, Pop Stages every day, and some new characters were coming. What the hell happened?! What actually got me back into this game was a sale for characters. 1G coin for a character license. I bought a Krieg the Templar which I later made. Named Yuutarra.

Eventually I had enough G Coins to purchase a new character, Asuka the Dual Wielder named Annetta. Very fun to play really. Then later I bought a Ralph the Street Fighter named Retalion. Very fun to play as too. Then I made a Lime the Transforming Slime named Mepheso. Also very fun to play as. Then I made a Dacy the Puppeteer named Sutradhara. Another also very fun to play as. Then I made an Eir the Healer named Pleine. Yeah. All in a month. Rebirthed, except for Mepheso and Pleine.

And now I am working on an Arta the Engineer named Maruire. Guess how fun she is? Very gosh darn fun.

Everyone can solo stages now, but who doesn't want to team up with people to take down enemies? At least you get more EXP!

tl;dr
Lunia had a lot of characters so I had a lot of fun. The party play is great too.

Game #1: Mabinogi

Who did you think I am? I'm not going to finish this joke. I might offend some people.

Mabinogi is the best game I've ever played that is an MMORPG. Awesome combat and story, fun skills, and a variety of quests. And the fact I can make my characters Jacks Of All Trades is a plus too.

My legend began with Rainofsorrow. Young Rain is an optimistic boy, though a bit idiotic. Nowadays, he lends a helping hand to other players but really keeps to himself. Old Rain is smarter but acts rather blunt and cold to other peoploe. Dual-wielding and Two-Handed Swords is the way to go for him! A master of melee fighting with decent magic and alchemy makes him a force to be reckoned with. With the power of a Dark Knight things just go crazy! And now as a Demi-God everything just went fun. Recently been farming. I mean actual farming. He has joined several guilds; Geass, another that I forgot the name of, and Seduction. Geass was my favorite.

Next I made Lightstream, the replacement for the Young Rain. She had the most wardrobe changes, four at least! Bow and arrow seconded with a Mace and Shield are her way of fighting! A strong archer with decent melee fighting, she's a force that can be dealt with though. Helps that she's a Paladin. Has joined Geass too but has since left.

Klen, a Giant character. Loud and powerful, Klen deals with things via force. Recently started to wear a pair of glasses. His way of fighting is with a big Sword and Shield followed by a Big Hammer, though occasionally uses Knuckles. With moderate melee skills, he's a force to be dealt with but has the power of a Savage Beast to help him! Never has once joined a guild.

Vestiege, an Elf character. Motherly and tsunderely, she acts as the voice of reason for the group, though Rain usually is the main voice. She wears a very revealing outfit. Fights with a Bow and Arrow followed second with a Sword and Shield. Easily dealt with however. Has the power of a Falcon Elf on her side. Never joined a guild though has made a friend.

The combat is something I've never experienced before, requiring to think of my feet if I want to be successful. Unlike other games, soloing is able to be done, however multiple enemies are sure to be the ones to finish you off. Party play is one of my favorite things about this game. Even a maximum party of eight people is no match for the destructiveness of the hardest bosses in the game, let alone the power of Peaca Dungeon. A whole battalion of people is required to make an effort through these obstacles! How hard is that?!

All in all, Mabinogi is one of my favorite games and will continue to be so in the future. Though Vindictus seems to be shaping up to be a close second or tie. I will, however, judge that later.

tl;dr
Mabinogi is darn fun and I have four different characters with seven different pets.

End of story. Let me know what you think, blah blah blah and all that good stuff.

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35 Comments

MasterCheeze 7 July 2010

I guess I can barely make this list, since I’ve only played about six MMORPGs; I guess fucking Aika will have to get the boot in this case.

5. Granada Espada – Had a bit of fun playing this till I lost all initiative.
4. Wonderking – I had a huge amount of hype for this game until I got pissed at how laggy it was. Overall I was pretty disappointed that I didn’t stick with this game since it could’ve been my replacement to MapleStory.
3. FlyFF – Had some good time with MMOTalers, and I got one of my friends irl to play with me, so I actually had a good couple of months with this.
2. Maplestory – Ran my life for about a year-and-a-half, got me introduced to MMOTales, became the medium for my comics, and created a bunch of great memories for me.
1. Runescape – First MMO that I ever played; I would spend a lot of days after-school playing this at the library with friends. Getting on to harass noobs never gets tiring either.

Vusys 7 July 2010

Only MMOs I’ve played are:

3. MapleStory
2. MapleStory private servers
1. WoW

Pirkid 7 July 2010

5. Maplestory – Honorable mention since it did manage to suck out a good amount of my life, and bad games can’t do that.

4. Mabinogi – Because it was different, the fighting wasn’t just point-and-click, there was all kinds of things you could do (shearing sheep blew my mind) and it’s overall just a nice little game.

3. Shaiya – Most RPG-ish RPG game I’ver played, in the sense that you had your tanks, AoE players, mage damage dealers, healers, every basic stereotypical class in the game was in Shaiya. Now pit two factions against each other constantly, and you get Shaiya. Good game but lost interest after it became a grindfest.

2. FlyFF – One of the best MMORPG games I’ve ever played, because it was a blast playing with me you know, and the game doesn’t take itself too seriously, but can be brutal when it does.

1. Granada Espada – 3 years later and I’ve still Jack-tower-Catherina-INT-Musk-Standing Colony War playing. This game is beyond anything I’ve seen, once you get past the easy levels. Raids are incredible, since you control 3 characters at once, and you get (3-12) players in a raid depending on the type. That’s 9-36 players in one dungeon. Now imagine 30 players against another 30 players in a huge battlefield over territory.
Jeeze. I’m gonna go play after work.

DarkDragoon 7 July 2010

6. Fiesta- Plain old fun game, just not enough of my friends played so it quickly became boring.

5. Maplestory- Introduced me to just about everything on the internet including you guys. Sucked out so many of my living hours including all nighters.

4. Aika- Fun, just got replaced.

3. WYD Online- Some of the most fun I ever had playing a game. Great class customization with a pretty unique class(beast master who could either summon beasts or transform into them). Auto trainer was awesome too.

2. FlyFF- Need I explain? Great art and gameplay.

1. Rose Online(open beta)- Fucking epic shit here. FlyFF style play(preceded FlyFF though) but much better artwork and gameplay. My second MMO ever, first being Runescape. I was actually heart broken when the game went P2P.

tarheel91 7 July 2010

5. Wonder King – Lag and hackers pushed me away in closed beta, haven’t been back since

4. Aika – It’s difficult to do by yourself, and waiting for another person gets old after a while. If you find someone, though, it’s great.

3. Maple Story – Main focus of my gaming life for 2 years. I still occasionally play it when a new class comes out. It’s not too bad until 60 or so when you run out of things to do and it’s pure grinding FUN.

2. Ragnarok Online – Great game, bosses were a challenge. INCREDIBLE grind (much worse than MS). Private servers took care of that, though.

1. TalesWeaver – My favorite MMORPG of all time. Unique combat, beautiful art work, awesome weapons. PVP, Bosses, w/e. Stats and skills worked differently than any other game I’ve played. Only problem is it was never released in English and the Japanese and Korean server English communities are now dead.

Arladerus 7 July 2010

These are my MMOs that I’ve played for more than 3 years.

MapleStory
Survival Project
RuneScape
GunZ Online

These are the ones I played for about a year or less, but it was enjoyable.

Ragnarok Online
WoW Pserver
Stellar Conflicts (http://www.gecko-games.com/tt/#) Not very massive but I played it a lot

These are the games I’ve given up on and will probably never play again

Neopets
ROSE Online
Wonderking
Dragonica
Aika Online
DOMO
Combat Arms
Warrock
Soldier Front
Asda Story
Grand Fantasia
Granado Espada
Lunia
Shaiya

List goes on but meh.

David 7 July 2010

o_o

Only MMOs I ever played were RuneScape and MapleStory.. and other games published by Nexon but never for an extended amount of time (1-2 months max).

o_o

Well, unless you count Neopets, but I only played that for a few months too. MapleStory was probably longest, then RS.

RS was fun until I got perma-banned. :<

tarheel91 7 July 2010
Arladerus said: These are my MMOs that I’ve played for more than 3 years.

MapleStory
Survival Project
RuneScape
GunZ Online

These are the ones I played for about a year or less, but it was enjoyable.

Ragnarok Online
WoW Pserver
Stellar Conflicts (http://www.gecko-games.com/tt/#) Not very massive but I played it a lot

These are the games I’ve given up on and will probably never play again

Neopets
ROSE Online
Wonderking
Dragonica
Aika Online
DOMO
Combat Arms
Warrock
Soldier Front
Asda Story
Grand Fantasia
Granado Espada
Lunia
Shaiya

List goes on but meh.

Somebody sucks at FPS’s, haha, and I don’t count War Rock, CA, and SF as MMO, because you’re only interacting with 16 other people max (32 for War Rock).

War Rock takes the crown among those, though. If it wasn’t for the lag, I’d never be able to stop playing that game.

Gujju 7 July 2010

Maple
Mabinogi
Aika.

In that order, which happens to be the order i played them all in. Only MMO’s i ever played

Nass 7 July 2010

3D MMOs suck.

Arladerus 7 July 2010

@Tarheel, it’s the lag, glitches and hacks which turn me away.

Dustin 7 July 2010

Played Runescape for 5 years.

Spade 7 July 2010
Arladerus said: @Tarheel, it’s the lag, glitches and hacks which turn me away.

Your move, Scott

tarheel91 7 July 2010
Spade said:

Arladerus said: @Tarheel, it’s the lag, glitches and hacks which turn me away.

Your move, Scott

War Rock has lag issues because it doesn’t have dedicated servers. Last time I checked, that was an issue for all console games, and was not normal for PC games. Every game has hackers and glitchers.

Spade 8 July 2010

Where do you find hackers for online console games?

There’s that occasional modder but nothing else.

Sure there are glitchers, but they’re usually patched within a week, two weeks tops.

As for PC games… The glitches are usually patched with a content update, which takes 2-3 months.

tarheel91 8 July 2010
Spade said: Where do you find hackers for online console games?

There’s that occasional modder but nothing else.

Sure there are glitchers, but they’re usually patched within a week, two weeks tops.

As for PC games… The glitches are usually patched with a content update, which takes 2-3 months.

It really depends on the game and developer. COD has glitches that have existed for half a year. Unless you can do a study and demonstrate there is a statistical difference between the time it takes for console games to be patched and PC games, your anecdotal evidence means nothing. Same goes for hackers.

Spade 8 July 2010

Eh…

Combat Arms Rattlesnake glitch has been existent for half a year.. (fixed with the hi-sec key content update)
Snow Valley Rock glitch has been existent for 2 months.. (fixed with the two towers map release)
Crossfire Dupe-step glitch wasn’t even noticed by the staff for an entire year
AVA’s tagging glitch existed even after Beta, (not sure how long it took for them to fix it, but it was a while)

MW2’s care package glitch was fixed within 2 weeks
MW2’s second care package glitch was fixed within a week

Em, btw. There really are no hackers for consoles; I’m serious.
PC = wallers, OPKers, plainly abusive cheats, aimbot
Console = Modding names so that they’re in color, Terrible trigger (single shot weapons are auto fire), etc.

What you call “hacks” for the console are trivial things that can be put up with.

You should give console online gaming a try, Scott

Oh wait I shouldn’t even bother asking xD

Car $$$$$$ )’:

Arladerus 8 July 2010

Yeah I was drawn away from online FPSs and towards console since I’m a pretty much a pioneer of them

DarkDragoon 8 July 2010

MW2 mainly fails because they neglected to beta test it. That’s it.
Other then that the maps are just too camper friendly

BlackNazgul 8 July 2010

For some reason, Runescape sticks out in my mind, probably because it is my first MMORPG. But then, I keep wandering back to it over and over again. Something about that game just keeps taking me back into its firm grasp.

-=The Nazgul=-

FunnyFroggy 8 July 2010
DarkDragoon said: 6. Fiesta- Plain old fun game, just not enough of my friends played so it quickly became boring.

5. Maplestory- Introduced me to just about everything on the internet including you guys. Sucked out so many of my living hours including all nighters.

4. Aika- Fun, just got replaced.

3. WYD Online- Some of the most fun I ever had playing a game. Great class customization with a pretty unique class(beast master who could either summon beasts or transform into them). Auto trainer was awesome too.

2. FlyFF- Need I explain? Great art and gameplay.

1. Rose Online(open beta)- Fucking epic shit here. FlyFF style play(preceded FlyFF though) but much better artwork and gameplay. My second MMO ever, first being Runescape. I was actually heart broken when the game went P2P.

ROSE has been free for a while now. 😮

Dest1 8 July 2010

Dofus (…wtf…)
Runescape
Mabinogi (too slow for me)
Maplestory (..bleh)
Aika (Too lazy to play now)

Wolfboy183 8 July 2010

My top 5 mmo’s:

CokeMusic
Gunz
MapleStory
RuneScape
Rappelz (it was good but the interface was too damn confusing)
FlyFF (I made an all STR (or dex) hunter who did insane damage but I had too little hp lol)
Aika Online
World of Warcraft (only cause I played it the longest)

I only remember playing Lunia for five minuted then quit.
Trickster- every single thing was abbreviated and confusing, and well I didnt really like my toon being half-furry)

DarkDragoon 8 July 2010
FunnyFroggy said:

DarkDragoon said: 6. Fiesta- Plain old fun game, just not enough of my friends played so it quickly became boring.

5. Maplestory- Introduced me to just about everything on the internet including you guys. Sucked out so many of my living hours including all nighters.

4. Aika- Fun, just got replaced.

3. WYD Online- Some of the most fun I ever had playing a game. Great class customization with a pretty unique class(beast master who could either summon beasts or transform into them). Auto trainer was awesome too.

2. FlyFF- Need I explain? Great art and gameplay.

1. Rose Online(open beta)- Fucking epic shit here. FlyFF style play(preceded FlyFF though) but much better artwork and gameplay. My second MMO ever, first being Runescape. I was actually heart broken when the game went P2P.

ROSE has been free for a while now. 😮

WTFBBQ D:
Well…they messed it up since the open beta so I gave up ;-;
I miss my Striker/Scout/w.e it was

dee32693 8 July 2010

1. Maplestory (easy to play yet very fun! i still come back to it)
2. Mabinogi (i wish i had hte time to play Dx love this game but fireleo already over-explained lmao)
3. Luna Online (so…cute……my character can do the Tell Me dance. case closed)
4. Aika (cause everyone else plays it…even though gender-locking is still retarded)
5. WoW ( i wouldve continued playing if it wasnt P2P and blood elves werent extra)

tarheel91 12 July 2010
Spade said: Eh…

Combat Arms Rattlesnake glitch has been existent for half a year.. (fixed with the hi-sec key content update)
Snow Valley Rock glitch has been existent for 2 months.. (fixed with the two towers map release)
Crossfire Dupe-step glitch wasn’t even noticed by the staff for an entire year
AVA’s tagging glitch existed even after Beta, (not sure how long it took for them to fix it, but it was a while)

MW2’s care package glitch was fixed within 2 weeks
MW2’s second care package glitch was fixed within a week

Em, btw. There really are no hackers for consoles; I’m serious.
PC = wallers, OPKers, plainly abusive cheats, aimbot
Console = Modding names so that they’re in color, Terrible trigger (single shot weapons are auto fire), etc.

What you call “hacks” for the console are trivial things that can be put up with.

You should give console online gaming a try, Scott

Oh wait I shouldn’t even bother asking xD

Car $$$$$$ )’:

Forum thread

Yeah, cheating on the PS3 is not an issue AT ALL.

Arladerus 12 July 2010

Really, tarheel? It isn’t? Man I should look into getting a PS3

tarheel91 12 July 2010
Arladerus said: Really, tarheel? It isn’t? Man I should look into getting a PS3

That was sarcasm. If you’d clicked the link, you would’ve realized it.

MasterCheeze 12 July 2010
tarheel91 said:

Arladerus said: Really, tarheel? It isn’t? Man I should look into getting a PS3

That was sarcasm. If you’d clicked the link, you would’ve realized it.

Dude, Super Smash Bros. Brawl has more hacking online than all the PS3 games combined.

Spade 13 July 2010
iBlah said: wow I haven’t ran into anything like this yet, but now I know they’re out there I’ll just quit the game if anything unusual happens.

Jay520 said: How often does this happen?

hasanwhy said: I’ve put in 200 hours into the game’s multiplayer, and I have to tell you that glitching is not as prevalent

siphillis said: haven’t seen any errors or glitches, never had any problems at all.

Also, I never said cheating was NEVER an issue on the PS3 ; I said it was rarely a problem to be QQ’d over about.

Sounds to me that they’re just using a glitch to get outside the map…

Seeing people through walls, instant aimbot headshots….?

Or getting outside a map.

HMMMM

Seems to me that the severity of the cheating is much stronger in PC games.

I’ve had no problems while playing MW2. ogmf you can get on top of the buildings in Highrise ; Cool man I’ll just chuck a nade up there.

tarheel91 13 July 2010
Spade said:

iBlah said: wow I haven’t ran into anything like this yet, but now I know they’re out there I’ll just quit the game if anything unusual happens.

Jay520 said: How often does this happen?

hasanwhy said: I’ve put in 200 hours into the game’s multiplayer, and I have to tell you that glitching is not as prevalent

siphillis said: haven’t seen any errors or glitches, never had any problems at all.

Also, I never said cheating was NEVER an issue on the PS3 ; I said it was rarely a problem to be QQ’d over about.

Sounds to me that they’re just using a glitch to get outside the map…

Seeing people through walls, instant aimbot headshots….?

Or getting outside a map.

HMMMM

Seems to me that the severity of the cheating is much stronger in PC games.

I’ve had no problems while playing MW2. ogmf you can get on top of the buildings in Highrise ; Cool man I’ll just chuck a nade up there.

If you’re going to make comparisons between two things like you’re trying to, you kind of need more proof than “Well in MY experience” sort of thing. I’m simply pointing out a case I casually came across where cheating was negatively impacting gameplay on the PS3. While you did not deny there were some instances of cheating on the PS3, you tried to blow them off like they weren’t really impacting gameplay too much. This is proof that these cases do exist. We’re never going to come to any reasonable conclusion in this argument because neither of us have any significant evidence to support our opinion. I say we drop it. I will continue to think adopting console gaming purely because you’re trying to avoid cheaters is stupid. You will continue to think you made the right decision. Even if I COULD find convincing evidence, I doubt it’d change your mind. You’ve invested lots of money into your decision, and confirmation bias will make it nearly impossible to accept you are wrong on the matter.

Spade 13 July 2010
tarheel91 said:

Spade said:

iBlah said: wow I haven’t ran into anything like this yet, but now I know they’re out there I’ll just quit the game if anything unusual happens.

Jay520 said: How often does this happen?

hasanwhy said: I’ve put in 200 hours into the game’s multiplayer, and I have to tell you that glitching is not as prevalent

siphillis said: haven’t seen any errors or glitches, never had any problems at all.

Also, I never said cheating was NEVER an issue on the PS3 ; I said it was rarely a problem to be QQ’d over about.

Sounds to me that they’re just using a glitch to get outside the map…

Seeing people through walls, instant aimbot headshots….?

Or getting outside a map.

HMMMM

Seems to me that the severity of the cheating is much stronger in PC games.

I’ve had no problems while playing MW2. ogmf you can get on top of the buildings in Highrise ; Cool man I’ll just chuck a nade up there.

If you’re going to make comparisons between two things like you’re trying to, you kind of need more proof than “Well in MY experience” sort of thing. I’m simply pointing out a case I casually came across where cheating was negatively impacting gameplay on the PS3. While you did not deny there were some instances of cheating on the PS3, you tried to blow them off like they weren’t really impacting gameplay too much. This is proof that these cases do exist. We’re never going to come to any reasonable conclusion in this argument because neither of us have any significant evidence to support our opinion. I say we drop it. I will continue to think adopting console gaming purely because you’re trying to avoid cheaters is stupid. You will continue to think you made the right decision. Even if I COULD find convincing evidence, I doubt it’d change your mind. You’ve invested lots of money into your decision, and confirmation bias will make it nearly impossible to accept you are wrong on the matter.

Cheating makes people rage anywhere, no matter how you look at it. However, you can’t deny the immense significance between getting walled and glitching out of a map. In Combat Arms, there was a guy literally zooming around the map planting unlimited mines and dropping Incendiary gases. There IS a limit to how much you can exploit games on consoles. Furthermore, if you’re going to go on about how “my experience” isn’t enough proof, why are you looking up other peoples’? You presented me with “evidence” that one person’s experience was terrible on the PS3. However, notice that most of the comments posted below state that these people RARELY come across such abusers and glitchers. Also, I wasn’t trying to blow the exploits off as nothing; I was merely trying to say that compared to the cheating I’ve come across PC games, getting out of a map is barely comparable. I guarantee you that I can easily find a working cheat for ANY PC game within 10 minutes. I challenge you to do the same with the PS3.

Tarheel91 said: I will continue to think adopting console gaming purely because you’re trying to avoid cheaters is stupid.

Avoiding cheaters is a big issue, but note that I also quit PC gaming for my IRL friends as well. And overall the gaming experience is more enjoyable.

tarheel91 13 July 2010
Spade said:

tarheel91 said:

Spade said:

iBlah said: wow I haven’t ran into anything like this yet, but now I know they’re out there I’ll just quit the game if anything unusual happens.

Jay520 said: How often does this happen?

hasanwhy said: I’ve put in 200 hours into the game’s multiplayer, and I have to tell you that glitching is not as prevalent

siphillis said: haven’t seen any errors or glitches, never had any problems at all.

Also, I never said cheating was NEVER an issue on the PS3 ; I said it was rarely a problem to be QQ’d over about.

Sounds to me that they’re just using a glitch to get outside the map…

Seeing people through walls, instant aimbot headshots….?

Or getting outside a map.

HMMMM

Seems to me that the severity of the cheating is much stronger in PC games.

I’ve had no problems while playing MW2. ogmf you can get on top of the buildings in Highrise ; Cool man I’ll just chuck a nade up there.

If you’re going to make comparisons between two things like you’re trying to, you kind of need more proof than “Well in MY experience” sort of thing. I’m simply pointing out a case I casually came across where cheating was negatively impacting gameplay on the PS3. While you did not deny there were some instances of cheating on the PS3, you tried to blow them off like they weren’t really impacting gameplay too much. This is proof that these cases do exist. We’re never going to come to any reasonable conclusion in this argument because neither of us have any significant evidence to support our opinion. I say we drop it. I will continue to think adopting console gaming purely because you’re trying to avoid cheaters is stupid. You will continue to think you made the right decision. Even if I COULD find convincing evidence, I doubt it’d change your mind. You’ve invested lots of money into your decision, and confirmation bias will make it nearly impossible to accept you are wrong on the matter.

Cheating makes people rage anywhere, no matter how you look at it. However, you can’t deny the immense significance between getting walled and glitching out of a map. In Combat Arms, there was a guy literally zooming around the map planting unlimited mines and dropping Incendiary gases. There IS a limit to how much you can exploit games on consoles. Furthermore, if you’re going to go on about how “my experience” isn’t enough proof, why are you looking up other peoples’? You presented me with “evidence” that one person’s experience was terrible on the PS3. However, notice that most of the comments posted below state that these people RARELY come across such abusers and glitchers. Also, I wasn’t trying to blow the exploits off as nothing; I was merely trying to say that compared to the cheating I’ve come across PC games, getting out of a map is barely comparable. I guarantee you that I can easily find a working cheat for ANY PC game within 10 minutes. I challenge you to do the same with the PS3.

Tarheel91 said: I will continue to think adopting console gaming purely because you’re trying to avoid cheaters is stupid.

Avoiding cheaters is a big issue, but note that I also quit PC gaming for my IRL friends as well. And overall the gaming experience is more enjoyable.

1) There is a difference between proving something in a comparison and proving something exists. It’s very easy to prove something exists. Proving something in a comparison requires much more.

2) Citing CA isn’t fair. That’s more an issue of F2P vs P2P. P2P requires much more of an investment by the player. Many times a new account requires repurchasing something. Even if they’re playing a pirated version of the game, it still requires a lot more work. There’s a much larger incentive not to cheat in P2P than in F2P.

3) Homebrew, have you heard of it?

4) I respect the whole playing with friends thing.

Spade 14 July 2010
tarheel91 said:

Spade said:

tarheel91 said:

Spade said:

iBlah said: wow I haven’t ran into anything like this yet, but now I know they’re out there I’ll just quit the game if anything unusual happens.

Jay520 said: How often does this happen?

hasanwhy said: I’ve put in 200 hours into the game’s multiplayer, and I have to tell you that glitching is not as prevalent

siphillis said: haven’t seen any errors or glitches, never had any problems at all.

Also, I never said cheating was NEVER an issue on the PS3 ; I said it was rarely a problem to be QQ’d over about.

Sounds to me that they’re just using a glitch to get outside the map…

Seeing people through walls, instant aimbot headshots….?

Or getting outside a map.

HMMMM

Seems to me that the severity of the cheating is much stronger in PC games.

I’ve had no problems while playing MW2. ogmf you can get on top of the buildings in Highrise ; Cool man I’ll just chuck a nade up there.

If you’re going to make comparisons between two things like you’re trying to, you kind of need more proof than “Well in MY experience” sort of thing. I’m simply pointing out a case I casually came across where cheating was negatively impacting gameplay on the PS3. While you did not deny there were some instances of cheating on the PS3, you tried to blow them off like they weren’t really impacting gameplay too much. This is proof that these cases do exist. We’re never going to come to any reasonable conclusion in this argument because neither of us have any significant evidence to support our opinion. I say we drop it. I will continue to think adopting console gaming purely because you’re trying to avoid cheaters is stupid. You will continue to think you made the right decision. Even if I COULD find convincing evidence, I doubt it’d change your mind. You’ve invested lots of money into your decision, and confirmation bias will make it nearly impossible to accept you are wrong on the matter.

Cheating makes people rage anywhere, no matter how you look at it. However, you can’t deny the immense significance between getting walled and glitching out of a map. In Combat Arms, there was a guy literally zooming around the map planting unlimited mines and dropping Incendiary gases. There IS a limit to how much you can exploit games on consoles. Furthermore, if you’re going to go on about how “my experience” isn’t enough proof, why are you looking up other peoples’? You presented me with “evidence” that one person’s experience was terrible on the PS3. However, notice that most of the comments posted below state that these people RARELY come across such abusers and glitchers. Also, I wasn’t trying to blow the exploits off as nothing; I was merely trying to say that compared to the cheating I’ve come across PC games, getting out of a map is barely comparable. I guarantee you that I can easily find a working cheat for ANY PC game within 10 minutes. I challenge you to do the same with the PS3.

Tarheel91 said: I will continue to think adopting console gaming purely because you’re trying to avoid cheaters is stupid.

Avoiding cheaters is a big issue, but note that I also quit PC gaming for my IRL friends as well. And overall the gaming experience is more enjoyable.

1) There is a difference between proving something in a comparison and proving something exists. It’s very easy to prove something exists. Proving something in a comparison requires much more.

2) Citing CA isn’t fair. That’s more an issue of F2P vs P2P. P2P requires much more of an investment by the player. Many times a new account requires repurchasing something. Even if they’re playing a pirated version of the game, it still requires a lot more work. There’s a much larger incentive not to cheat in P2P than in F2P.

3) Homebrew, have you heard of it?

4) I respect the whole playing with friends thing.

You obviously haven’t seen War/Starcraft cheaters then..

I believe Homebrew’s experience can’t be taken online.

spygirl57 15 July 2010

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